tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.comments2023-10-08T18:03:59.871+02:00thinking with my fingersTorillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07428251841060676279noreply@blogger.comBlogger1047125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-22491755166685338062016-12-15T11:21:00.727+01:002016-12-15T11:21:00.727+01:00Agree 100% :-)Agree 100% :-)Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09830762002384376112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-31335271786016596052015-12-05T19:01:19.368+01:002015-12-05T19:01:19.368+01:00Thanks for this post; always good to have some ref...Thanks for this post; always good to have some references to show to administrators.<br /><br />In the U.S., however, this train has long left the station. University administrators (former academics themselves) are abundantly aware of this, and don't care. High school preparation being extremely weak (due to the devaluing of the teaching profession), students get to university with no idea Peter Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00754472537710161295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-40087005937922985612015-11-25T13:57:22.091+01:002015-11-25T13:57:22.091+01:00Thanks, you're right, I changed the last quote...Thanks, you're right, I changed the last quote. :)Torillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07428251841060676279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-3739419838912537142015-11-23T20:20:29.545+01:002015-11-23T20:20:29.545+01:00Hey, you posted the same part of the article you r...Hey, you posted the same part of the article you refer to twice, i oresume one of them was meant to be something else?<br />Shandrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09243368468608048536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-4250507687704349572015-08-15T12:10:41.556+02:002015-08-15T12:10:41.556+02:00Sometime playing a game can help in getting relief...Sometime playing a game can help in getting relief from stress. Some of the peoples like to play several types of games online to enjoy and also to make their lifestyle more attractive. Thanks for taking care of all those things in the post. <br />Regards, Amie <br /><a href="http://www.ibet88.my/" rel="nofollow"> Online Betting Malaysia </a>Ale Rossihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11598961970797086203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-54981284562756029992015-06-23T21:21:56.232+02:002015-06-23T21:21:56.232+02:00First off: No, I don't think game mechanics ch...First off: No, I don't think game mechanics change personalities. I don't think games have that kind of influence. What I do believe is that they may cater to some personalities more than others, or favour some part of a personality more than another. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. I also don't believe that a player automatically is a bad person or an aggressive, unkind Torillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07428251841060676279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-63603375324438377102015-06-23T19:40:06.169+02:002015-06-23T19:40:06.169+02:00The question I would have is "Do mechanics ac...The question I would have is "Do mechanics actually change personality, or do different mechanics select for different audiences?"<br /><br />In your WoW example, are the players in the WotLK dungeon the same as in the previous expansion? Perhaps the previous expansion did a better job of segregating players. Players who focused on speed and achievement joined guilds with other players Rohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090769681887119989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-35196823664913331062015-05-22T17:19:34.527+02:002015-05-22T17:19:34.527+02:00Dear William Eaton
Thank you for your comments. ...Dear William Eaton<br /><br /><br />Thank you for your comments. As you might guess, I still don't agree with you. I don't see my lack of linking to 8chan as a problem for 8chan, nor for people who enjoy the site. The people who are there will still find their own voice in the environment that suits them.<br /><br />I take from your response that you feel anything which might be less thanTorillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07428251841060676279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-28860193610190373292015-05-22T16:46:49.299+02:002015-05-22T16:46:49.299+02:00"I also don't agree that chan boards are ...<i>"I also don't agree that chan boards are ruled by merit only. My experience with chan boards is well in line with the work of Gabrielle Coleman and Whitney Phillips, both of whom point out that the tone on chans work as a very strong socialising factor, silencing voices that do not thrive in that particular environment."</i><br />Okay, and what do you think happens to people who William Eaton's Last Standhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12136683311311496706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-45332925059007363612015-05-22T10:54:56.155+02:002015-05-22T10:54:56.155+02:00Thank you Mike, you asked some really nice questio...Thank you Mike, you asked some really nice question. Can I just start with saying again that I have never been in favour of abolishing games? I don't think you can find that conclusion anywhere in my publications.<br /><br />Do we try to give people tools online to be nicer to each other?<br /><br />That is the question I think you are asking, and I think that is a brilliant question. That isTorillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07428251841060676279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-63536670772572676592015-05-22T10:28:25.858+02:002015-05-22T10:28:25.858+02:00Why is it more important to abolish what you don&#...Why is it more important to abolish what you don't like then teach the tools to ignore and move on from it? No, really. Explain it to me. I see this direction your headed and I'm honestly curious, cause in my mind I feel like your establishing that gaming is a threat because the reaction you have gotten is not part how it was expected to steer stuff. <br /><br />I'm hardcore gamer,Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09819185709821775806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-3312891641206541272015-05-22T07:56:55.085+02:002015-05-22T07:56:55.085+02:00First, to those whose comments I do not post. The ...First, to those whose comments I do not post. The points are somewhat repetitive, and do not bring the discussion forwards. This is my opinion, yes.<br /><br />Next: Andy Bax<br />Thank you for your write-up of the "toxic" statement. It was thorough and interesting. However, "gleeful" also describes how the people flooding that hashtag chose to revel in the act. Gleeful means Torillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07428251841060676279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-45581530627399494272015-05-22T07:01:09.002+02:002015-05-22T07:01:09.002+02:00Torill,
You provide as evidence one tweet (link...Torill, <br /><br />You provide as evidence one tweet (linked below) to demonstrate GamerGate's 'glee they turned the hashtag toxic' but it hardly does even that. <br /><br />https://twitter.com/HoocOtt/status/599704037945004032<br />https://archive.is/zpVEX<br /><br />"Hey, psst, hey #digra2015 you should change your hashtag because it has now become toxic.<br /><br />#Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01600379987165179302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-7541147202565710802015-05-22T01:17:26.807+02:002015-05-22T01:17:26.807+02:00Thank you for your opinion, smoggy cat. I can'...Thank you for your opinion, smoggy cat. I can't fault people for having problems with academic language though. I'd be happy to explain in different language if they ask for that.<br /><br />To others who might want to post similar sentiments: please don't repeat what has already been said, bring something new to the discussion.Torillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07428251841060676279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-69822905817082343092015-05-22T00:40:57.715+02:002015-05-22T00:40:57.715+02:00I find it extremely irritating that people would i...I find it extremely irritating that people would immediately react to completely benign academic language with incendiary comments such as: "you are a bunch of good-for-nothings trying to tear down the hard work of people."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15717470267950855027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-56511886597227828272015-05-22T00:19:30.911+02:002015-05-22T00:19:30.911+02:00Nick, if I was doing strong identity politics rese...Nick, if I was doing strong identity politics research, if I was maligning gamers and attacking games, I would try to respond to your argument. Instead I want to point out what most people who have criticised DiGRA forget: That is not a large part of DiGRA research, and it is certainly not my research. <br /><br />Let me be quick and say that the research by the few gender and identity scholars Torillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07428251841060676279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-37879946194298492022015-05-21T23:43:28.176+02:002015-05-21T23:43:28.176+02:00Nick wrote a long, well considered post about anot...Nick wrote a long, well considered post about another researcher. Since I am not that researcher, I am neither going to post it here, nor try to answer. I will focus on the last part of that post:<br /><br />"That is why we take issue with DiGRA's advocacy research and "diversity" agenda. What it's doing is anti-diversity, it's divisive, and more to the point it's Torillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07428251841060676279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-47352026429325283852015-05-21T23:41:20.824+02:002015-05-21T23:41:20.824+02:00Ae Wahr
I have no problem with letting your link ...Ae Wahr<br /><br />I have no problem with letting your link to reddit stand in my comment section. I also don't find that it disproves my point.<br /><br />When it comes to 8chan: It might be that 8chan has no illegal content, but it has a lot of material which I do not want to link to. I don't know if there are doxes there right now, but there have been in the near past. The same goes Torillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07428251841060676279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-5966646103157738212015-05-21T21:37:02.355+02:002015-05-21T21:37:02.355+02:00The community you have chosen to label and malign ...The community you have chosen to label and malign has provided a rational if critical response to your writeup on reddit which I will link below, but given your response to other attempts to post rebuttals (rejection on not only genetic fallacy, but unsubstantiated genetic fallacy), I wonder if you have the courage to approve it and allow it to stand in your comment section:<br /><br />http://wahr01https://www.blogger.com/profile/10995639144863359783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-83905754800398589272015-05-21T21:02:57.872+02:002015-05-21T21:02:57.872+02:00@generallucas
Gaming has weathered far worse &quo...@generallucas<br /><br />Gaming has weathered far worse "hostile research" in the past 2 decades. We went through years of, "Do video games cause violence?" from researchers and lawyers (Oh, Jack Thompson, what amazing entertainment value you were), only to find in the end that science had shown time and time again the answer was "no" or "inconclusive". Talarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17684944568000522986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-62750188370561353532015-05-21T18:02:05.144+02:002015-05-21T18:02:05.144+02:00The Raven
You make an excellent point. Disliking ...The Raven<br /><br />You make an excellent point. Disliking subversive agendas does not create a hostile culture. <br /><br />But you don't really know DiGRA well if you believe this is the organisation that resists games such as GTA. Quite the opposite: DiGRA members have fought for games as a cultural expression - that's an important freedom of speech issue. We have also protested game Torillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07428251841060676279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-17836050873423477642015-05-21T16:48:38.876+02:002015-05-21T16:48:38.876+02:00The fact gamers disagree with DiGRA's subversi...The fact gamers disagree with DiGRA's subversive political agendas doesn't make us a hostile culture. We are only hostile to attempts to enforce political homogenization on our demographics.<br />52 million copies of GTA5, 4th most sold game ever, are clear indicator that gamers like games about freedom.<br />And it says a lot that GTA5 is the pinnacle of what people with your agenda hateThe Ravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00267087551498912924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-19142397531428304242015-05-21T12:49:43.013+02:002015-05-21T12:49:43.013+02:00Generaallucas, my response to you:
You are not d...Generaallucas, my response to you: <br /><br />You are not doing yourself or the university a favour by taking a specific case to 8chan and Gamergate. If there is a genuine issue with the research and teaching, you should take it to staff at the university in question, and ask that it be investigated. This happens, I know at least two professors who have been fired because of bad practice. <br />Torillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07428251841060676279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-75158521371165550542015-05-21T12:32:48.934+02:002015-05-21T12:32:48.934+02:00Generaallucas left a link to 8chan. Considering th...<a href="https://www.blogger.com/profile/07525786559531035850" rel="nofollow">Generaallucas</a> left a link to 8chan. Considering the content of that website, I am not going to approve of any posts with links there. This is however the rest of the post, with the names of individuals being attacked in the 8chan thread redacted. Even without the names the comment is interesting for an example of GGTorillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07428251841060676279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2638416.post-70890215145758649292015-05-21T11:47:26.266+02:002015-05-21T11:47:26.266+02:00Rafael, a poetic image. But who owns the bones the...Rafael, a poetic image. But who owns the bones the beast is cracking? Torillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07428251841060676279noreply@blogger.com